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		<title>By: juan Butregui</title>
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		<description>Dear Heluo

I`ve read all articles about 2010.
I`m in fact a teacher, and I can tell you that at least here in Barcelona we never had it so good. Many teachers are retiring earlier due to the austerity measures in Euroland, which is great for us new teachers, as there is a shortage of them here.

Juan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Heluo</p>
<p>I`ve read all articles about 2010.<br />
I`m in fact a teacher, and I can tell you that at least here in Barcelona we never had it so good. Many teachers are retiring earlier due to the austerity measures in Euroland, which is great for us new teachers, as there is a shortage of them here.</p>
<p>Juan</p>
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		<title>By: heluo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Danny,

I couldn&#039;t have said it better.

The one thing we should do whenever dealing with 9 Stars and Luoshu for purpose of practical application - be that following our personal progression or news in the media - is be just &#039;mundane&#039; about it, just as you&#039;re using same term, and do away with anything fancy, so that, what we&#039;d be left with is anyone&#039;s notion that &#039;hey, I can do this myself&#039;.

We don&#039;t need any &#039;hurray&#039; type of approach, as the good thing is, there be no any secret anywhere, no any reason to mystify or obscure, as it is all just straightforward syntax that can be done by anyone at all - and in no time.

I need people to be able to readily see their television screen literally turn into a moving Luoshu and in order to achieve that, it be taking just minimum effort to get to a point where one could perfectly single-handedly incorporate 9 Stars and Luoshu in all of one&#039;s endeavors.

The &#039;proof&#039; is in the pudding, but for as long as our society measures in ten&#039;s, we won&#039;t be able to see 9 Stars at work. In order to do so, we would need measure in nine&#039;s. In order to make soup of 2010, we&#039;d be reaching back for 2001, 1992, 1983 and so on.

Proof is in the events, the moreso if those 9 Ki relevant events in our media didn&#039;t involve living tissue. It is one thing to see our personal experiences &#039;fit&#039; Luoshu, it is a whole different ball game to actually see a car collide into a tree or fall into a ravine when it is &#039;supposed to&#039; according to Luoshu Star configuration at the time. Go figure.

Thing is, if at all we are able to forecast any event long before it happens and we are then able to ongoingly repeat same (I try avoid using &#039;prediction&#039;), it shows a) yes, magnetic energy is there in nine&#039;s to behave in certain manner &#039;as projected&#039; and b) such energy can be measured and manipulated. Once able to manipulate Qi to later and repeatedly produce the anticipated outcome, that is any civilian&#039;s &#039;proof&#039;.

I have not been without Luoshu for even one day since 1988 and I can attest it will never fail you. Not only will it not lie, it will surface &#039;reality&#039;. I will give just one example as I recall one such &#039;revelation&#039; when television news mentioned an explosion in a labor mine somewhere in Kazakhstan or around-ish and they claimed the blast was due to electrical failure. Thing is, in order to have that we would need Star 3 Wood besides Star 2 Earth for labor mine, but Luoshu at the time showed 2-6 instead. So, my elbow in her rib, I told my wife &#039;nope, that&#039;s an armed assault&#039;. News item was on a Tuesday, then on Friday they announced that yes, six guys with rifles had attacked the labor mine, causing the blast. 

It is marvellous, and the good thing is, you&#039;d have same happen all the time. 

Mundane also, because, once setting oneself in front of an annual-, monthly- or daily Luoshu to mirror it to the news in the media, such can be done with &#039;same&#039; heart rate per minute as if sitting in one&#039;s garden at sunset. What we&#039;d see is just the 9 Stars in effect.

Regarding the year 2010 being an 8 Earth year in 9 Ki, then compared to Period 8 as projected for Flying Star Feng Shui, this would be a discourse in itself, but the short version is that, even though both 9 Ki and Flying Star Feng Shui heavily rely on the &#039;same&#039; 9 Stars and Trigrams, it is for Feng Shui where we&#039;d then glue &#039;timeliness&#039; onto the Stars, such for reason of &#039;Qi confinement&#039; and &#039;Qi distribution&#039;, i.e. energy caught in the game of growth and decay once captured within &#039;walls and roof&#039;.

By themselves, 9 Ki and Flying Star Feng Shui are two perfectly autonomous systems, one &#039;touching&#039; upon the other perhaps, but up to a certain point. It is only after the massive popularization of Flying Star Feng Shui that the annual-, monthly- and daily Stars as derived from 9 Ki at all got &#039;swirled&#039; into the bucket of &#039;timeliness&#039;, whereas before that time we wouldn&#039;t have seen any such thing. I feel strong, therefore, about any Xuan Kong Feng Shui practitioner yet taking up separate and formal training in 9 Ki, also because - besides this - there would be a wealth of other techniques generally not known &#039;out there&#039;, but which be critical in our practice, but that aside.

9 Stars as per 9 Ki and 9 Stars as employed for San Yuan Feng Shui &#039;match&#039; every 180 years (and for epochs beyond that), whereas the latter would stay with 20 year Periods, which be not so for 9 Ki, or perhaps when we&#039;d link 9 Stars to Ganzhi (Jia-Zi in particular, coinciding with Star 1) as such, but then 9 Ki to be not made to match Feng Shui doctrine, the least not as to &#039;behavior&#039; then linked to a Star being (un)timely (I see to it that, while at the current 2010 series this blog, I&#039;ll get to speak of this a bit for clarity).

So that, we can then not by same notion of timeliness take the 9 Ki Stars for years, months and days &#039;hostage&#039; and superimpose annual Star charts over our floor plan to proclaim any of those annual stars either timely or untimely, for simple reason that 9 Ki Stars &#039;happen&#039; from a totally different realm and are *always* timely, pure, indivisible, yang, mobile, active and instigating events. Said differently, Stars as derived from 9 Ki at any time do not become &#039;Feng Shui&#039; Stars.

Since you&#039;re asking, it has been an elephant - and nothing we can do about it - to see publications telling practitioners that annual Star 8 is &#039;wealth&#039; just because once caught inside a Flying Star chart, Star 8 would be at Prime stage. We get to see monthly newsletters all the time - and it just won&#039;t stop -, throwing people left &#039;n&#039; right about their house to go capture monthly Star 8 each changing monthly Luoshu, then also of course stay clear from wherever monthly Star 2 - or Star 5 - appears. We would almost need hire someone to keep track of where those Calabashes and other gadgets would go each time.

Reading Star 2 and Star 8 - or any other Star - as to 9 Ki, is just perfectly calmly back to reading into the general (there you have it, mundane) Trigram attributes (mirrored to context, rather not timeliness), so that monthly Star 2 arriving at the door be hardly &#039;sickness arriving the house&#039;,  but perhaps Star 2 merely pointing to &#039;study&#039;, or &#039;lecture&#039;, or &#039;mother&#039;, or &#039;spouse&#039;, or &#039;food&#039;, or &#039;hospital&#039;, that&#039;s it.

Well, I hope that sheds a light on the matter.

Be well,

Heluo
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Danny,</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t have said it better.</p>
<p>The one thing we should do whenever dealing with 9 Stars and Luoshu for purpose of practical application &#8211; be that following our personal progression or news in the media &#8211; is be just &#8216;mundane&#8217; about it, just as you&#8217;re using same term, and do away with anything fancy, so that, what we&#8217;d be left with is anyone&#8217;s notion that &#8216;hey, I can do this myself&#8217;.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need any &#8216;hurray&#8217; type of approach, as the good thing is, there be no any secret anywhere, no any reason to mystify or obscure, as it is all just straightforward syntax that can be done by anyone at all &#8211; and in no time.</p>
<p>I need people to be able to readily see their television screen literally turn into a moving Luoshu and in order to achieve that, it be taking just minimum effort to get to a point where one could perfectly single-handedly incorporate 9 Stars and Luoshu in all of one&#8217;s endeavors.</p>
<p>The &#8216;proof&#8217; is in the pudding, but for as long as our society measures in ten&#8217;s, we won&#8217;t be able to see 9 Stars at work. In order to do so, we would need measure in nine&#8217;s. In order to make soup of 2010, we&#8217;d be reaching back for 2001, 1992, 1983 and so on.</p>
<p>Proof is in the events, the moreso if those 9 Ki relevant events in our media didn&#8217;t involve living tissue. It is one thing to see our personal experiences &#8216;fit&#8217; Luoshu, it is a whole different ball game to actually see a car collide into a tree or fall into a ravine when it is &#8217;supposed to&#8217; according to Luoshu Star configuration at the time. Go figure.</p>
<p>Thing is, if at all we are able to forecast any event long before it happens and we are then able to ongoingly repeat same (I try avoid using &#8216;prediction&#8217;), it shows a) yes, magnetic energy is there in nine&#8217;s to behave in certain manner &#8216;as projected&#8217; and b) such energy can be measured and manipulated. Once able to manipulate Qi to later and repeatedly produce the anticipated outcome, that is any civilian&#8217;s &#8216;proof&#8217;.</p>
<p>I have not been without Luoshu for even one day since 1988 and I can attest it will never fail you. Not only will it not lie, it will surface &#8216;reality&#8217;. I will give just one example as I recall one such &#8216;revelation&#8217; when television news mentioned an explosion in a labor mine somewhere in Kazakhstan or around-ish and they claimed the blast was due to electrical failure. Thing is, in order to have that we would need Star 3 Wood besides Star 2 Earth for labor mine, but Luoshu at the time showed 2-6 instead. So, my elbow in her rib, I told my wife &#8216;nope, that&#8217;s an armed assault&#8217;. News item was on a Tuesday, then on Friday they announced that yes, six guys with rifles had attacked the labor mine, causing the blast. </p>
<p>It is marvellous, and the good thing is, you&#8217;d have same happen all the time. </p>
<p>Mundane also, because, once setting oneself in front of an annual-, monthly- or daily Luoshu to mirror it to the news in the media, such can be done with &#8217;same&#8217; heart rate per minute as if sitting in one&#8217;s garden at sunset. What we&#8217;d see is just the 9 Stars in effect.</p>
<p>Regarding the year 2010 being an 8 Earth year in 9 Ki, then compared to Period 8 as projected for Flying Star Feng Shui, this would be a discourse in itself, but the short version is that, even though both 9 Ki and Flying Star Feng Shui heavily rely on the &#8217;same&#8217; 9 Stars and Trigrams, it is for Feng Shui where we&#8217;d then glue &#8216;timeliness&#8217; onto the Stars, such for reason of &#8216;Qi confinement&#8217; and &#8216;Qi distribution&#8217;, i.e. energy caught in the game of growth and decay once captured within &#8216;walls and roof&#8217;.</p>
<p>By themselves, 9 Ki and Flying Star Feng Shui are two perfectly autonomous systems, one &#8216;touching&#8217; upon the other perhaps, but up to a certain point. It is only after the massive popularization of Flying Star Feng Shui that the annual-, monthly- and daily Stars as derived from 9 Ki at all got &#8217;swirled&#8217; into the bucket of &#8216;timeliness&#8217;, whereas before that time we wouldn&#8217;t have seen any such thing. I feel strong, therefore, about any Xuan Kong Feng Shui practitioner yet taking up separate and formal training in 9 Ki, also because &#8211; besides this &#8211; there would be a wealth of other techniques generally not known &#8216;out there&#8217;, but which be critical in our practice, but that aside.</p>
<p>9 Stars as per 9 Ki and 9 Stars as employed for San Yuan Feng Shui &#8216;match&#8217; every 180 years (and for epochs beyond that), whereas the latter would stay with 20 year Periods, which be not so for 9 Ki, or perhaps when we&#8217;d link 9 Stars to Ganzhi (Jia-Zi in particular, coinciding with Star 1) as such, but then 9 Ki to be not made to match Feng Shui doctrine, the least not as to &#8216;behavior&#8217; then linked to a Star being (un)timely (I see to it that, while at the current 2010 series this blog, I&#8217;ll get to speak of this a bit for clarity).</p>
<p>So that, we can then not by same notion of timeliness take the 9 Ki Stars for years, months and days &#8216;hostage&#8217; and superimpose annual Star charts over our floor plan to proclaim any of those annual stars either timely or untimely, for simple reason that 9 Ki Stars &#8216;happen&#8217; from a totally different realm and are *always* timely, pure, indivisible, yang, mobile, active and instigating events. Said differently, Stars as derived from 9 Ki at any time do not become &#8216;Feng Shui&#8217; Stars.</p>
<p>Since you&#8217;re asking, it has been an elephant &#8211; and nothing we can do about it &#8211; to see publications telling practitioners that annual Star 8 is &#8216;wealth&#8217; just because once caught inside a Flying Star chart, Star 8 would be at Prime stage. We get to see monthly newsletters all the time &#8211; and it just won&#8217;t stop -, throwing people left &#8216;n&#8217; right about their house to go capture monthly Star 8 each changing monthly Luoshu, then also of course stay clear from wherever monthly Star 2 &#8211; or Star 5 &#8211; appears. We would almost need hire someone to keep track of where those Calabashes and other gadgets would go each time.</p>
<p>Reading Star 2 and Star 8 &#8211; or any other Star &#8211; as to 9 Ki, is just perfectly calmly back to reading into the general (there you have it, mundane) Trigram attributes (mirrored to context, rather not timeliness), so that monthly Star 2 arriving at the door be hardly &#8217;sickness arriving the house&#8217;,  but perhaps Star 2 merely pointing to &#8217;study&#8217;, or &#8216;lecture&#8217;, or &#8216;mother&#8217;, or &#8217;spouse&#8217;, or &#8216;food&#8217;, or &#8216;hospital&#8217;, that&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>Well, I hope that sheds a light on the matter.</p>
<p>Be well,</p>
<p>Heluo<br />
<a href="http://www.heluo.nl" rel="nofollow">http://www.heluo.nl</a></p>
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		<title>By: Danny VdB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny VdB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Heluo,

Good article.
Whatever form of astrology we are practicing, it is important to verify the working of our system and methods. This will give us confidence and a good yardstick by which we can measure our results.

Mundane events give us plenty of opportunity to test our methods.
While astrology will of course not predict every toothache in a person&#039;s life, we should be able to see the main themes that our astrology indicates, provided that there is any value in our system.

You line out very well how to observe and link events to our methods, how to see the themes mix.
This is our necessary first step.
From observation we can move on into application, apply the patterns that we have learned to observe.
And from application we can go on to proper advice and try to alter the outcome if an indicated destiny or event is not desirable.
These three steps are the path of an astrologer.

Any thoughts on this year being a #8 year in the #8 Period?
I had that kind of question on my network recently.


Danny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Heluo,</p>
<p>Good article.<br />
Whatever form of astrology we are practicing, it is important to verify the working of our system and methods. This will give us confidence and a good yardstick by which we can measure our results.</p>
<p>Mundane events give us plenty of opportunity to test our methods.<br />
While astrology will of course not predict every toothache in a person&#8217;s life, we should be able to see the main themes that our astrology indicates, provided that there is any value in our system.</p>
<p>You line out very well how to observe and link events to our methods, how to see the themes mix.<br />
This is our necessary first step.<br />
From observation we can move on into application, apply the patterns that we have learned to observe.<br />
And from application we can go on to proper advice and try to alter the outcome if an indicated destiny or event is not desirable.<br />
These three steps are the path of an astrologer.</p>
<p>Any thoughts on this year being a #8 year in the #8 Period?<br />
I had that kind of question on my network recently.</p>
<p>Danny</p>
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